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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:34 am

Of the players he have now, we have:

Human (Leukocyte, Phantom of the Opera)
Metahuman (Saho Mange, Preagleopolis Signal, Agent 525600 Minutes, Zealot)
Machine (Synapse)
Animal (Neara)
Mythical Animal (Fenrir, Behemoth)
Giant Monster (O-Girl)
Supernatural Creature (Seraphim, Vlad, Lillith)

I think people will be able to group themselves based on their powers. Some of the groups might be redundant.

I imagine Humans would have the lowest capability for Strength or Speed while Animals would have shit terrible Intelligence/Dexterity, but humans are going to have the highest Will (because fuck you) and animals might have the highest Wisdom/Perception.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:36 am

Synapse wrote:
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That's how other traditional games do it.

Also, FUCK YEAH HUMANS.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:45 am

Since 10 is "average" and 20 is "peak", here are some things to help people imagine where their characters stand on your scale.

10 Strength: Able to bench own weight (?)
20 Strength: Able to bench ~1000 pounds/squat ~1200 pounds (Mariusz Pudzianowski) He weighs ~271 lbs.

10 Speed: Able to sprint at ~14 MPH (Avg walking speed is 3 - 4 MPH)
20 Speed: Able to sprint at ~23 MPH (Usain Bolt's Record)

10 Dexterity: You, right now probably
20 Dexterity: Olympic level gymnast, dancer, ice dancer or ninja. Alternatively, Batman.

10 Intelligence: IQ of 100, Literate, High School graduate and no college degree
20 Intelligence: IQ of 250 or so. (WIlliam James Sidis) I don't even know.

10 Wisdom: Hopefully you
20 Wisdom: Enlightened individual (i.e: Buddha)
Above: wot

10 Endurance: You probably. Hard to say.
20 Endurance: Able to walk/run non-stop for 300 miles, etc

The rest are even harder to quantify than Wisdom and Endurance
I don't even know about peak human intelligence either
I'm using world record holders here


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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:35 am

After discussing it with Signal, here are some other benchmarks that might of use for this system:

0 or 5 Will: Clinically Depressed
10 Will: Able to achieve a relatively simple task, like finding the will to go to work or something
20 Will: Worthy enough to become a Green Lantern or someone like Cap Am who is perfect in every way
Above: Telepaths, Trained Lantern Corps members, etc

10 Perception: Able to see the hidden meanings in some high school level book or something
20 Perception: Batman level detective work, Daredevil level Daredevilness
Above: Toph from A:TLA when grounded, etc

I cannot think of a way to quantify Vitality aside from how many calories you can burn by doing x action.
It could be a stat in the sense that 10 Vitality means burning 2800 on an average day but that makes things get dull real fast.

If anything the existence of a Vitality stat would be akin to an MP gauge that can go up when recharging (eating, sleeping, using a power that does that, most of those are boring) or down when doing anything until 0 means you pass out. I'm not sure how much I like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Synapse wrote:
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>MP Gauge
Honestly, that was sort of the idea...

Just to give the idea that a person just can't repeatedly use the maximum amount of their ability without getting tired.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:37 pm

First post updated with version 2.0, guide, and benchmark info.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:44 pm

well, I didn'tmean those as-is

like Wisdom is very hard to quantify
if 20 is Enlightenment then 30 would be omniscience or something
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:15 pm

Testing out a drop in the ability pool from 180 to 135, to reflect that most people are going to be above average, not exactly peak.


Spend 135 in the following to detail your character

Beta Boy
Meta-Human
Astral Projection

Strength: 10
Speed: 10
Dexterity: 15

Intelligence: 20
Wisdom: 20
Perception: 20

Endurance: 15
Will: 15
Energy: 10



Spend 90 in the following to detail the powers of your character

Strength
Endurance 20 (Long Story)
Energy/Vitality

Speed
Dexterity

Intelligence 20
Perception 35
Will 15

Energy Projection




I think that better reflects Beta Boy.

I rike it.


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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:19 pm

Strength: 30
Speed: 15
Dexterity: 20

Intelligence: 2
Wisdom: 3
Perception: 15

Endurance: 15
Will: 25
Energy: 10

Power:
+75 Intelligence
+5 Endurance
+10 Energy


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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:47 pm

Spend 135 in the following to detail your character:
Saho Mange

Strength: 7
Speed: 0
Dexterity: 0

Intelligence: 70
Wisdom: 20
Perception: 15

Endurance: 6
Will: 7
Energy/Vitality: 10


Spend 90 in the following to detail the powers of your character:

Strength
Endurance
Energy/Vitality

Speed 45
Dexterity 45

Intelligence
Perception
Will

Energy Projection




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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:01 pm

He's an idea
What about this:

Optional:

Humans
Add up to 24 points to Will and/or Dexterity
Subtract half of what you added (up to 10) from Strength, Wisdom or Perception

Metahumans
Add up to 28 points to Strength, Speed, Endurance
Subtract half from Will and/or Dexterity

Animals
Add up to 24 points to Perception, Strength, Speed
Subtract half from Intelligence, Dexterity, Will, Speed and/or Strength

Machines
Add up to 24 points to Intelligence, Endurance or Strength
Subtract half from Wisdom and/or Speed

Supernatural (Ghosts, Angels, Demons, etc)
Add up to 24 points to Intelligence, Wisdom or Willpower
Subtract half from Dexterity, Energy or Speed

This accounts for different races having different strengths.
This more or less gives people 12 additional points to work with while metahumans get 14 because fuck you.

Humans get extra Will/Dex for ingenuity and creativity
Superhumans get extra points for their probable powers
Animals are more in tune with nature and can sense supernatural activity. Can add to Speed or Strength if you're an ostrich or something
Machines get Int for their AIs and Strength/Endurance because science
Supernaturals are ageless and have higher mental stats
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:51 pm

Vault 2.5
Meta
Double Jump

Character
Strength 5
Speed 5
Dexterity 5


Intelligence 45
Wisdom 25
Perception 20


Endurance 10
Will 15
Energy/Vitality 5

Power

Strength 20
Endurance 10
Energy/Vitality 10


Speed 25
Dexterity 25


Intelligence
Perception
Will


Energy Projection


(Copy and pasted from Excel, bueno.)

Accurate. Saho cheats though.

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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:11 pm

Strength: 25
Speed: 10
Dexterity: 15

Intelligence: 10
Wisdom: 10
Perception: 15

Endurance: 40
Will: 10
Energy/Vitality: 20

Energy Projection 70

lol idk
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:16 pm

Midas
Meta-Human
Chrysopoiea

Strength: 10
Speed: 12
Dexterity: 14


Intelligence: 23
Wisdom: 18
Perception: 20


Endurance: 8
Will: 20
Energy: 10



Spend 90 in the following to detail the powers of your character

Strength – 10 (From lugging a gold suit around all day)
Endurance -5 (“)
Energy/Vitality- 5(“)

Speed
Dexterity

Intelligence
Perception
Will

Energy Projection 70
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:55 am

Okay, so using 135 points in stats and 90 points in powers, along with the alternate race rules, gives me this for Luke:

Luke Ramirez (of "Project Leukocyte")
Human
Peak Human Healing

Stats:
Strength: 16
Speed: 15
Dexterity: 14

Intelligence: 12
Wisdom: 12
Perception: 15

Endurance: 20
Will: 25
Vitality: 20

Powers:
Endurance: 45
Vitality: 45
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:56 am

So here's this horrible bullshit I made while experimenting with race rules
Alternatively, there could be no race rules
Alternatively, there could be flat bonuses and deductions

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Race: Machine
Power: Cyber Mind

Strength: 30
Speed: 15 (-4)
Dexterity: 20

Intelligence: 2 (+5)
Wisdom: 6 (-3)
Perception: 15

Endurance: 15 (+9)
Will: 22
Energy: 10

Bonuses: +14/-7

Power:
+77 Intelligence
+3 Will
+10 Energy
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:18 pm

All that Will. I'm jealous.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:45 pm

Opening post updated with a calculator spreadsheet to make it a bit easier to spread out your points.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:22 pm

So, should characters who create constructs (e.g. Green Lantern, Sugar Shock) use the 135 points available for characters or the 90 points for powers?

I imagine that say, GL would put all his Power Points into Will and come up with different stats for his constructs.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:50 pm

Synapse wrote:
So, should characters who create constructs (e.g. Green Lantern, Sugar Shock) use the 135 points available for characters or the 90 points for powers?

I imagine that say, GL would put all his Power Points into Will and come up with different stats for his constructs.

Character stats can be and most likely are independent of the power stat.

Constructors like that would put all of their power points into Energy Projection.

The beautiful thing about energy projection is that if you can control it you can pretty much do anything. Like make a giant punchy fist or propel yourself at mach 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Having 200 speed and no durability = instant death

also spreadsheet doesn't seem to work
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:56 pm

Synapse wrote:
Having 200 speed and no durability = instant death

also spreadsheet doesn't seem to work

That's their problem.


Also spreadsheet is fixed.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:41 pm

Well, after receiving tons of shit...
How about a ranking system?
It removes that cumbersome limit of fairness.

Strength:
Speed:
Dexterity:

Intelligence:
Wisdom:
Perception:

Endurance:
Will:
Energy/Vitality:

Energy Projection:



GUIDE


10 is average human.

15 is above average.

20 is peak human.

21+ is super-human

30 is Zealot.
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:55 pm

Fuck da police.

Strength: 25
Speed: 25
Dexterity: 25


Intelligence: 20
Wisdom: 20
Perception: 20


Endurance: 10
Will: 20
Energy/Vitality: 25


Energy Projection: 0
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PostSubject: Re: Stat Mechanic Test and Research   Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:57 pm

Am I doing it right?

Strength: 10
Speed: 10
Dexterity: 10


Intelligence: 20
Wisdom: 20
Perception: 30


Endurance: 10
Will: 15
Energy/Vitality: 10


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